tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post970799725900735304..comments2024-03-25T17:38:55.490-07:00Comments on Dar Kush: "24" and HaitiSteven Barneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13630529492355131777noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-30419562541313145542010-01-20T08:41:37.603-08:002010-01-20T08:41:37.603-08:00China In Haiti.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/worl...China In Haiti.<br /><br />http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/haitiearthquake/2010-01/17/content_9332643.htm<br /><br />Natural disasters on a grand scale all over the world that spawn all kinds of humanitarian efforts is a truly marvelous way for all kinds of people with all kinds of ulterior motives to make appearences where their presense would ordinarily prompt all kinds of scrutiny. This kind of access provides wonderful opportunities to see, test, tweak, detect for later review, and closely observe all kinds of things for various and sundry reasons.<br /><br />A measly six-hundred miles is as good as peeking into someone's window when you have the right electronic-emitting and detecting equipment on-board say, a large jet aircraft above someone else's hemisphere far far away from your own and want a peek or a listen to that your other technology may not provide.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-45189958361139919142010-01-20T07:40:55.722-08:002010-01-20T07:40:55.722-08:00I'm not sure that liking torture of outsiders ...I'm not sure that liking torture of outsiders is based in "we're all alone" thinking, since part of the basis is ingroup vs. outgroup.<br /><br />The underlying thought may be connected to "things only work if you force them-- paying attention to breakage along the way means you'll take so much time that <i>you'll</i> get hurt".<br /><br />It's also not just ingroup vs. outgroup. In the movie <i>Blaze</i> (about the dog who doesn't know he's not really an action-adventure hero), the dog threatens to drop an alley cat off a bridge to get information about where he needs to go. The scene is set up by first showing the cat running a (very unlikely) protection scheme against pigeons, so that you'll have no sympathy for the cat.<br /><br />In <i>The Night of the Heat</i>, Hardwick tortures (uses pain to force an answer, if you prefer) the infuriating sister after she's done something particularly awful. Again, it's a matter of controlling reader sympathy, but it's not large group dynamics.Nancy Lebovitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07068537632391466902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-32845718494191170882010-01-20T07:40:55.173-08:002010-01-20T07:40:55.173-08:00I'm not sure that liking torture of outsiders ...I'm not sure that liking torture of outsiders is based in "we're all alone" thinking, since part of the basis is ingroup vs. outgroup.<br /><br />The underlying thought may be connected to "things only work if you force them-- paying attention to breakage along the way means you'll take so much time that <i>you'll</i> get hurt".<br /><br />It's also not just ingroup vs. outgroup. In the movie <i>Blaze</i> (about the dog who doesn't know he's not really an action-adventure hero), the dog threatens to drop an alley cat off a bridge to get information about where he needs to go. The scene is set up by first showing the cat running a (very unlikely) protection scheme against pigeons, so that you'll have no sympathy for the cat.<br /><br />In <i>The Night of the Heat</i>, Hardwick tortures (uses pain to force an answer, if you prefer) the infuriating sister after she's done something particularly awful. Again, it's a matter of controlling reader sympathy, but it's not large group dynamics.Nancy Lebovitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07068537632391466902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-38473662407867524102010-01-19T17:30:59.353-08:002010-01-19T17:30:59.353-08:00At the risk of finding out later that I'm defe...At the risk of finding out later that I'm defending the indefensible...<br /><br /><i>But...how did Iceland and China get there before us? <br /></i><br /><br />There were hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans helping in Haiti at the moment the quake struck. They were trying to help <i>before</i> there was a quake, and I doubt they stopped after (unless trapped or dead themselves). Where were the Chinese and Icelanders then? Perhaps there were some, but I doubt nearly as many as from the US.<br /><br />But this is pretty pointless. Trying to figure out who is doing what and why based on second, third, etc., reports isn't useful, no more than trying to guess what is really happening during an ongoing combat operation. Time will tell, but we won't know for a long while.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15143968845818281978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-13410764516468570502010-01-19T15:34:37.779-08:002010-01-19T15:34:37.779-08:00Off topic. I just read that Robert Parker died. I ...Off topic. I just read that Robert Parker died. I will really miss his Spencer novels.Marty Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06465745755940914756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-2758213625159968712010-01-19T13:32:24.365-08:002010-01-19T13:32:24.365-08:00EXACTLY what I thought when I heard that China wa...EXACTLY what I thought when I heard that China was in Haiti rescuing people before the U.S. was. thats ridiculous. Haiti is 600 miles away from us. and how far away is China?<br />And Iceland? what the heck?film feministahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901757351899387636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-86218813557830402632010-01-19T12:20:58.356-08:002010-01-19T12:20:58.356-08:00So far, I've yet to hear anyone approve of pro...<i>So far, I've yet to hear anyone approve of profiling if it is "their" group.</i><br /><br />Dude, you'd have to empty the prisons to find room for all the deserving white male businessmen. :-)Daniel Keys Moranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12992599044462413412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-78165638537250855432010-01-19T10:45:47.686-08:002010-01-19T10:45:47.686-08:00The question isn't how China and Iceland got t...The question isn't how China and Iceland got there ahead of us.<br /><br />It's Why?<br /><br />The US primary objective is to keep Haitians locked on the island. So it's about moving many troops to patrol offshore, to control the harbors and airport.<br /><br />Love, C,Foxessahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06754083123669916994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-81444043012961766402010-01-19T10:26:47.301-08:002010-01-19T10:26:47.301-08:00The two groups vary more within themselves than be...The two groups vary more within themselves than between the two groups is a very spurious argument,logically speaking. Consider the following two groups. Earthquakes that occur within 100 miles of a big population center and those that occur further away. They have identical statistics in every respect except one. The devastation in life and property. So the more the same than different argument says we should be no more concerned with the one that hit Hatti this week then the one that hit a remote region of California a little while ago. Sometimes all the similarities between groups, people or otherwise, don't make the differences disappear or be less important.<br />Please, don't take this as saying there are any particular important differences between any particular group of people. I am merely addressing the logic of the argument.Marty Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06465745755940914756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-86001383945794921222010-01-19T09:50:14.824-08:002010-01-19T09:50:14.824-08:00> So far, I've yet to hear anyone approve o...> So far, I've yet to hear anyone approve of profiling if it is "their" group. <<br /><br />I'm a young(-ish) male. If a violent crime is committed, I approve of profiling young or young-ish males over elderly females because it's vastly more likely that a member of group A would commit a violent crime than that a member of group B.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15753480478689867572noreply@blogger.com