tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post2767666013438637674..comments2024-03-25T17:38:55.490-07:00Comments on Dar Kush: Lost my voice at LosConSteven Barneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13630529492355131777noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-84656543108320931012008-12-07T12:08:00.000-08:002008-12-07T12:08:00.000-08:00There are long-running discussions on the net rega...There are long-running discussions on the net regarding what legally can be taken onto a commercial plane that can be made into a weapon, and the list is limited only by one's imagination. <BR/><BR/>Know what you get if you break a CD in half? Two knives.<BR/><BR/>Some yahoo a few years back was making such a point to a flight attendant on a jet from L.A. to Portland. He took a Coke can, flattened it, folded it in the middle and worked it back and forth until it broke apart, and held the halves up. See? I could slash your throat open with this!<BR/><BR/>FBI was waiting for him when the flight landed. <BR/><BR/>The silat djurus, for those of you who don't know the art, are the upper body tools. The lower body moves are called langkha. In class, the two are combined for practice, but most of the djurus can be done sitting in a chair. Barnes had all kinds of tools available to him -- and that's just the silat stuff -- he's been studying other arts for years. <BR/><BR/>Whatever limitations he had sitting in the seat, the other guy had sitting in his seat, too ...Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-74067642191860772992008-12-05T10:23:00.000-08:002008-12-05T10:23:00.000-08:00Upright grappling\trapping. For the airplane scena...Upright grappling\trapping. For the airplane scenario. I think it would be best to assume that you'd be attacked by an EDP and that they'd be real real nasty. Digging your eyes out, fishhooking, ripping your ears off, etc, etc.<BR/><BR/>Given the limited space and positioning options I think you'd be best served to trap them\pin them against their seat. <BR/><BR/>You could almost get their back and at least control their elbows such that their weapons would mostly be turned away from you. <BR/><BR/>Or, the reverse, trap them against the seat in front of them. <BR/><BR/>If you are window\center and they are aisle this is trickier, but still doable. <BR/><BR/>The principles of the djurus would suggest things like:<BR/><BR/>Turn the head and the body follows. <BR/><BR/>If they are reaching for you (as opposed to moving their body towards you and keeping their arms close) then you can do the same thing with an arm lock.<BR/><BR/>You know, ideally, for purposes of a fiction novel.<BR/><BR/>What would be off the table?<BR/><BR/>Changing levels doesn't seem too too likely.<BR/><BR/>Counter dirty-tricks would seem like offense vs. offense and if they are an EDP or MICA or what is it Rory says: Excited Delirium? then I think they are unlikely to respond as they "should" to such pain\damage.<BR/><BR/>This might also be a case for improvised..not weapons exactly, but if you had one of those cheap little airplane blankets at hand that might help in the restraint department.<BR/><BR/>You might go for some side of the neck KO shooto type stuff if you got the opening, I've seen similar types of attacks to the same area in the silat.<BR/><BR/>Anyway. Mostly I think trapping the person against the seats and getting them off-line as you mention, seem best. <BR/><BR/>I don't know if I would call those "djuru" principles specifically tho, more like general martial\combat principles.Master Planhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14699687565908188376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-10032561395763143212008-12-04T14:30:00.000-08:002008-12-04T14:30:00.000-08:00Steve-Do you practice the short range wrist-break ...Steve-<BR/>Do you practice the short range wrist-break strikes? Small bone breaking/concussive power at contact range without using lower body. I thought we played with those once.Roryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08483616030072739190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-67096110099446453292008-12-03T10:11:00.000-08:002008-12-03T10:11:00.000-08:00Hope your felling better. I really liked Officer a...Hope your felling better. I really liked Officer and a Gentleman and am glad Richard Gere played the role.Marty Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06465745755940914756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-71760915559584723922008-12-03T09:36:00.000-08:002008-12-03T09:36:00.000-08:00"Well...Since I could see both of his hands, and t..."Well...Since I could see both of his hands, and they were empty, he couldn't use a weapon without forewarning. And metal detectors limit what he might have to use".<BR/><BR/>Edged plastic items.<BR/>Fingernails.<BR/>Watches.<BR/>Spit.<BR/>Rings ... adapted or otherwise.<BR/>Ad "creative-um".<BR/><BR/>Sensi Mitsugi Saotome and the Art named after him old son. Basically, anything goes and whatever's available or what can be improvised.<BR/><BR/>You're getting closer and closer to getting us in a dojo and sparing. Be kind, I'm old.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-79666357015893410062008-12-02T09:10:00.000-08:002008-12-02T09:10:00.000-08:00The increasing level of politeness you mention is ...The increasing level of politeness you mention is very reassuring. I hope it is not just a transient effect.Pagan Topologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01611788563582362688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-77379052915784640832008-12-01T19:01:00.000-08:002008-12-01T19:01:00.000-08:00http://qntm.org/?geocideThis is a wonderful resour...http://qntm.org/?geocide<BR/><BR/>This is a wonderful resource on various mathods of completely destroying the earth. Not just all the life on it, mind you. That's chlid's play. Complete annihilation of the whole kit and kaboodle. Could be a whole mess of things in there that might help you out.Bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17709327252569770836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-47050301324026596022008-12-01T17:28:00.000-08:002008-12-01T17:28:00.000-08:00Sorry to hear you're feeling ill. By all accounts...Sorry to hear you're feeling ill. By all accounts, John Scalzi had a great time there. Wish I could have made it myself. <BR/><BR/>I hope you feel better soon.Josh Jasperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08441897278413737658noreply@blogger.com