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And if you were a "civilized" nation conduc...Right. And if you were a "civilized" nation conducting your war, you frowned upon the sniping from behind the trees. I don't think it is much of a stretch to figure that the attitude then toward such "cowardly" foes might well have been what it is in Iraq every time a roadside bomb goes off and takes out a truck full of soldiers.<BR/><BR/>Terrorism is one of those loose terms that gets adjusted by whoever is using it. And my comment stands -- one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.<BR/><BR/>It always depends on whose ox is being gored, doesn't it?Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-61805278853252731982008-10-09T08:29:00.000-07:002008-10-09T08:29:00.000-07:00Ah, but European wars in the 18th century were fou...<I>Ah, but European wars in the 18th century were fought with armies that played it by understood rules.</I><BR/><BR/>Sure. But the British had already fought wars in North America where the European rules were not adhered to.<BR/><BR/>I don't care what my 3rd grade history book says, being sniped from behind trees could not have been that startling to the British.<BR/><BR/><I><BR/>The term guerilla warfare didn't come about until later -- early 19th century.</I><BR/><BR/>The term, yes. The practice had been around for a while.Brian Dunbarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12952894032434503816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-37644477892095196462008-10-09T08:20:00.000-07:002008-10-09T08:20:00.000-07:00Ah, but European wars in the 18th century were fou...Ah, but European wars in the 18th century were fought with armies that played it by understood rules. The opposing forces would march onto he field of battle, stand in ranks, and fire away. Cities were won when one army surrendered.<BR/><BR/>(Probably more men died in wars from disease than bullets or bayonets until well after the American Civil War.)<BR/><BR/>There were times when the Colonials did this tin soldier face-off, but also times when they unsportingly fire from hiding, ambushing the superior numbers of redbacks, even shooting them in the back.<BR/><BR/>As I recall my history, the British thought this practice rather against the rules, and had they won the war, would have extracted a price for such dastardly deeds. <BR/><BR/>The term guerilla warfare didn't come about until later -- early 19th century.Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-21419591334675639302008-10-08T16:50:00.000-07:002008-10-08T16:50:00.000-07:00i'm not sure that Obama's the only one they undere...i'm not sure that Obama's the only one they underestimated. His campaign manager has got to get some deep credit.B the IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10647903110433573711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-42750712144787900632008-10-08T13:57:00.000-07:002008-10-08T13:57:00.000-07:00The British -- had the term been in vogue -- would...<I>The British -- had the term been in vogue -- would certainly have considered the hiding-behind-the-trees colonials terrorists.</I><BR/><BR/>We can't go back and ask them [1] but .. probably not. The Colonials were organized, uniformed and under arms - an army.<BR/><BR/>Terrorists / freedom fighters are unorganized and dressed like civilians. <BR/><BR/>[1] now there is a possible hook to build an SF story on - time travel to see what General Howe really thought about the American RevolutionBrian Dunbarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12952894032434503816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-12645911262468308192008-10-08T13:06:00.000-07:002008-10-08T13:06:00.000-07:00One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fight...One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. The British -- had the term been in vogue -- would certainly have considered the hiding-behind-the-trees colonials terrorists.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure the Arabs in the 1940's considered the Jews in the Holy Land terrorists.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I know what I mean when I point at it, but I expect the Basques don't think of it the same way, nor do the Tamil Tigers, nor the Palestinians, nor --- well. Pick a faction.Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-462810684309473152008-10-08T13:05:00.000-07:002008-10-08T13:05:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-24734706284175199272008-10-08T09:51:00.000-07:002008-10-08T09:51:00.000-07:00But terrorist the way we've come to use the term: ...<I>But terrorist the way we've come to use the term: part of a coordinated movement that needs to be combatted with military action? That doesn't quite wash with me.</I><BR/><BR/>I can see that.<BR/><BR/>When I used the term I was thinking of guys and gals who dress as civilians and use violence to achieve political objectives.<BR/><BR/>IRA, Red Army Faction, PLO .. those guys.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps we've narrowed the definition a bit much - a Basque who blows up a police station is a terrorist but he's Spain's problem, and we're not sending the Marines after him.Brian Dunbarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12952894032434503816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-71853336282308414602008-10-08T09:01:00.000-07:002008-10-08T09:01:00.000-07:00It's possible that Palin didn't hear the man sayin...It's possible that Palin didn't hear the man saying "Kill him". However, she certainly should have made a statement by now that she's opposed to assassination and to calling for assassination.<BR/><BR/>A minor thing, but did anyone else catch that the media-hating Palin cited the New York Times as a reliable source about Ayers?Nancy Lebovitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07068537632391466902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-46678796233715139902008-10-08T08:04:00.000-07:002008-10-08T08:04:00.000-07:00I'm not sure I'd use the term terrorist. Politica...I'm not sure I'd use the term terrorist. Political dissident using violent means to attack the infrastructure, sure. Maybe a worse crime. I don't know. But a terrorist is dedicated to using violence to disrupt the will of a people to continue an action--a little different. So...criminal behavior? Yes. But terrorist the way we've come to use the term: part of a coordinated movement that needs to be combatted with military action? That doesn't quite wash with me.Steven Barneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13630529492355131777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-2802862593884449412008-10-08T04:28:00.000-07:002008-10-08T04:28:00.000-07:00There you goProsecutorial misconduct got him off? ...There you go<BR/>Prosecutorial misconduct got him off? Then there should be a way to hold him accountable for his actions, even after prosecutorial misconduct. I thoroughly condemn his actions in that regard. Violence is never an acceptable political avenue, the man is a terrorist by the most basic definition. Obama still was not a part of those actions, and has never condoned them. I still stand by my assertion that mentioning the word terrorist is akin to emphasizing his middle name "Hussein" when speaking of him. It's meant to appeal to the most base and detestable qualities of human nature. Fear and subsequent hate of what is feared. A civilized and educated society should be above being manipulated by fear, especially by its leaders, or prospective leaders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-7766572838175347272008-10-08T04:09:00.000-07:002008-10-08T04:09:00.000-07:00From the Washington Post : Worse, Palin's routine ...<A HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/06/AR2008100602935.html" REL="nofollow">From the Washington Post </A>: <BR/><BR/><I>Worse, Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." <BR/><BR/><B>At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy." </B></I><BR/><BR/>Real charmers. By he way,<BR/><BR/><I>CBS News and Knowledge Networks conducted a nationally representative poll of approximately 500 uncommitted voters reacting to the debate in the minutes after it happened.<BR/><BR/>Thirty-nine percent of uncommitted voters who watched the debate tonight thought Barack Obama was the winner. Twenty-four percent thought John McCain won. Thirty-seven percent saw it as a draw.</I><BR/><BR/>and <BR/><BR/><I>CNN Post Debate Poll: Obama 51%, McCain 38%</I><BR/><BR/>I thought McCain did better this debate. Looks like I'm out of sync with undecided voters.Josh Jasperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08441897278413737658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-37776630701315376562008-10-07T22:29:00.000-07:002008-10-07T22:29:00.000-07:00"So the system says he's free? Why would you want ..."So the system says he's free? Why would you want to keep punishing him, let alone Obama?"<BR/><BR/>Hmm. Someone rapes my daughter and the case is dismissed because the evidence was obtained illegally. What do I do? I **** the bastard.<BR/><BR/>Ayers has admitted in his book to several bombings:<BR/><BR/>"Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in 1971, and The Pentagon in 1972, as he noted in his 2001 book, Fugitive Days. Because of a water leak caused by the Pentagon bombing, aerial bombardments during the Vietnam War had to be halted for several days. Ayers writes:<BR/><BR/>Although the bomb that rocked the Pentagon was itsy-bitsy - weighing close to two pounds - it caused 'tens of thousands of dollars' of damage. The operation cost under $500, and no one was killed or even hurt." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers<BR/><BR/>Umm, that is a terrorist. Whether or not Sen. Obama's ties with Ayers are significant is a different question. But Ayers is indisputably a terrorist. He went free not because the government couldn't prove he was guilty, but because of prosecutorial misconduct. The fact that so many people poo poo this issue is unbelievable to many people -- call it a litmus test.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-7331155075305324662008-10-07T22:00:00.000-07:002008-10-07T22:00:00.000-07:00"Charges were dropped in '77 due to prosecutorial ..."Charges were dropped in '77 due to prosecutorial misconduct."<BR/><BR/>So the system says he's free? Why would you want to keep punishing him, let alone Obama?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-58052804402854961642008-10-07T20:01:00.000-07:002008-10-07T20:01:00.000-07:00" ... and *that* one ..."Man, if you ever needed a..." ... and *that* one ..."<BR/><BR/>Man, if you ever needed an indictment of how a man really thinks, there's the line.<BR/><BR/>And that one.<BR/><BR/>Racist? Probably not. Aggressive and demeaning? Oh, yeah. <BR/><BR/>Pay attention folks. One of these men is going to have the power to push the button. Consider who you want to have that power. I think McCain would nuke Russia in a heart beat.<BR/><BR/>Be afraid. Be very afraid.Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-24547075827169917732008-10-07T19:10:00.000-07:002008-10-07T19:10:00.000-07:00Consider how carefully they vet the audience at a ...<I>Consider how carefully they vet the audience at a Republican Presidential rally these days. </I><BR/><BR/><BR/>That is untrue for the one rally I'm familiar with: My wife got tickets simply by calling the GOP office in Oshkosh. When she got to the door they weren't checking the tickets - just come on inside.Brian Dunbarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12952894032434503816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-60259327456838883702008-10-07T19:08:00.000-07:002008-10-07T19:08:00.000-07:00do you honestly expect people to believe that if t...<I>do you honestly expect people to believe that if there was any direct tie between Ayers and those bombings that he wouldn't have been charged?</I><BR/><BR/>I don't expect people to believe anything but the facts.<BR/><BR/>Ayers was guilty of bombing (NYPD headquarters, US Capitol, Pentagon) and was charged. Charges were dropped in '77 due to prosecutorial misconduct.<BR/><BR/>Guy was a terrorist.Brian Dunbarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12952894032434503816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-81462023828682300652008-10-07T19:05:00.000-07:002008-10-07T19:05:00.000-07:00Consider how carefully they vet the audience at a ...Consider how carefully they vet the audience at a Republican Presidential rally these days. Consider that this happened in quick succession at both events.<BR/><BR/>I see two possibilities. One is that there's a couple of guys currently enjoying the hospitality and unfriendly attention (to the point of proctoscopy) of the Secret Service. <BR/><BR/>The other is that they were plants designed to excite the Faithful. <BR/><BR/>My guess is #2Dan Gambierahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04172075070150854447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-32726918335541915052008-10-07T18:20:00.000-07:002008-10-07T18:20:00.000-07:00fearful voters...I didn't mean that every voter in...fearful voters...<BR/><BR/>I didn't mean that every voter in america is fearful, but there is a significant portion of americans that bought into the muslim idea. It's not just a few loud mouth yahoos. And just so its not misconstrued...a significant portion doesn't mean majority...it doesn't even mean plurality...but its a measurable group<BR/><BR/>As for the whole bombing accustations...the man was a founder of the group, but do you honestly expect people to believe that if there was any direct tie between Ayers and those bombings that he wouldn't have been charged?<BR/>Where's the evidence he was involved beyond being a member of the group? Radical elements do not always represent the whole group, I need only point you in the direction of people who bomb abortion clinics...does that mean founders and leaders of the right to life movement are terrorists themselves? <BR/><BR/>I'd say an equivalent terrorist exercise could be considered the economic and ecological warfare perpetuated by some of the current administrations oil friends. Money to fund "scientific tests" rejected by a majority of climatoglogists to blind people to the real impact of global warming trends, the constant push for drilling in protected territories with no benefit for anyone but those same companies, and the legal fenangling to dodge the money Exxon should be paying for its negligence in the Valdeez incident just to name a few<BR/><BR/>And even if Ayers is guilty, which honestly I don't think anyone has concrete evidence either way, and he may be, at which I thoroughly condemn him and his actions. Terrorist is still a loaded word meant to inspire fear and hatred when mentioned alongside the name of political opponent, its a despicable fear tactic akin to dragging my generation into a pathetic and unwinnable war scenario, and to cram down our throats the continuation of public losses and private profit that has become the "free market" of large scale american businessesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-28223540991679193292008-10-07T17:39:00.000-07:002008-10-07T17:39:00.000-07:00NPR's storyon Ayershttp://www.npr.org/templates/st...NPR's story<BR/>on Ayers<BR/><BR/>http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95442902<BR/><BR/>Obama's Links To Ex-Radical ExaminedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-69183529318778123052008-10-07T16:10:00.000-07:002008-10-07T16:10:00.000-07:00Saying the word terrorist is a loaded word, consid...<I>Saying the word terrorist is a loaded word, considering all the "Obama is a secret Muslim" crap that has been embraced by the fearful voters in America.</I><BR/><BR/>I'm wondering what you call a guy who blew up buildings and tried to murder people for political reasons, if not a terrorist.<BR/><BR/>And who embraces the 'Obama is a muslim' thing except a bunch of loud-mouth yahoos? Embraced by the fearful voters? You're stretching a point, I think.Brian Dunbarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12952894032434503816noreply@blogger.com