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Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-1157268232291672322012-12-20T09:11:07.229-08:002012-12-20T09:11:07.229-08:00Even though Internet shopping is convenient for ma...Even though Internet shopping is convenient for many, additionally, it turns [URL=http://www.northfaceapexbionicjacket.org/#1033]north face apex bionic sale[/URL] people off of because you must also pay for delivery to actually receive the products that you buy online. When you find a great North Face jackets selling shipping and [URL=http://www.northfaceapexbionicjacket.org/#1131]cheap north face apex[/URL] charges won't matter because you will be saving a good chunk of funds. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-71945025357499361632008-09-01T18:20:00.000-07:002008-09-01T18:20:00.000-07:00Marty: I put the link there so people could see FF...Marty: <BR/>I put the link there so people could see FFL position on contraception for themselves. I really don't care one way or another about Palin's affiliation with the group. I don't think it makes her more or less qualified for VP. <BR/><BR/>Having said that those people who ARE deeply interested in women's access to contraception might be a tad concerned about FFL's qualified neutrality on contraception-provided said contraception is not an "abortifacient"-a designation that could include Depo-Provera, Plan B, IUD, and Norplant. <BR/><BR/>If something prevents a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus, is that akin to abortion? Maybe, maybe not...Shady_Gradyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00996625985002373392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-82040111985111133572008-09-01T11:23:00.000-07:002008-09-01T11:23:00.000-07:00A geneticist friend of mine told me recently that ...A geneticist friend of mine told me recently that apparently there *is* an evolutionary benefit to homosexuality. Not to the gay individuals themselves, but apparently in families (lineages, not marriages) containing gay men, the women in the families are more fertile.<BR/><BR/>I neglected to ask him for his source but thought this was of interest.Ximena Cearleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14880347227657592318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-67241405840211420452008-09-01T10:53:00.000-07:002008-09-01T10:53:00.000-07:00Oh, and Marty?Palin's 17 year old unmarried daught...Oh, and Marty?<BR/><BR/>Palin's 17 year old unmarried daughter just dropped the news - she's pregnant. <BR/><BR/>Abstinence only education seems to be a direct obvious failure in Palin's family.Josh Jasperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08441897278413737658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-27669721554637943722008-09-01T09:19:00.000-07:002008-09-01T09:19:00.000-07:00Marty: Josh: That there is a long history of anti ...Marty: <BR/><BR/><I>Josh: That there is a long history of anti abortion groups being anti birth control does prove anything about a particular group or member of a group.</I><BR/><BR/>Palin is in favor of abstinence only sex ed, and is a favorite of the Alaska Eagle Forum, one of Phylis Schlafly's activist groups. The Eagle Forum is solidly anti-birth control.<BR/><BR/>I've read one article in Time Magazine saying Palin is pro birth control, but I've never seen any evidence to support that claim, and plenty to cast serious doubt on it. Support of abstinence only education is certainly cutting off access and information on birth control to at least one segment of the population - teens. You may think it's a great idea to do so, but you can't pretend it's pro birth-control.<BR/><BR/>Beyond that, I've not seen any evidence of her talking about feminism at all. Have you?Josh Jasperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08441897278413737658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-73427121801932054042008-09-01T09:12:00.000-07:002008-09-01T09:12:00.000-07:00I don't think the Obama camp is worried. A bit con...I don't think the Obama camp is worried. A bit confused--imagine a boxing champ whose opponent suddenly turns Lefty. Confusing, but unless the guy is actually a Southpaw, he will expose many flaws over the next rounds, and get knocked out. But it would be cause for brow-wrinkling.<BR/>##<BR/>Evolution and altruism? I have no problem there. Any trait that increases the group survival rates will also be passed along, even if it doesn't serve the individual. And altruism certainly does. And that's assuming that all human behaviors are directly traceable to biology. I think that evolution and individual survival is directly responsible for basic traits, say the lower chakras, but after that it gets way interesting and kind of wild. Consciousness was one of the wild ones that worked out. Spirituality arises from contemplating mortality and existence...figuring the survival value of THAT is a great parlor conversation.Steven Barneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13630529492355131777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-16833369599155370032008-09-01T07:12:00.000-07:002008-09-01T07:12:00.000-07:00not all evangelical x-iansare happy with Palingoes...not all evangelical x-ians<BR/>are happy with Palin<BR/>goes against the biblical treachings<BR/>of you know<BR/>women belong in the home<BR/>and should not have any<BR/>civic power over men. . . <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://tiny.cc/kZp8P" REL="nofollow">fundies against palin as VP</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-21634521332259014492008-09-01T04:46:00.000-07:002008-09-01T04:46:00.000-07:00Josh: That there is a long history of anti abortio...Josh: That there is a long history of anti abortion groups being anti birth control does prove anything about a particular group or member of a group. The interesting thing about this discussion is that it seems to show considerable gender bias still exists. If McCain had chosen a male conservative with the same views as Palin the pro life position would not have caused this kind discussion.Marty Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06465745755940914756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-40273790650736604912008-08-31T20:15:00.000-07:002008-08-31T20:15:00.000-07:00Marty - Membership in FFL is certainly consistent...Marty - Membership in FFL is certainly consistent with conservative anti-choice Republican values. I'm not saying she's unqualified to be a Republican VP pick, just that 99% of feminists I know don't think of her as a real feminist.<BR/><BR/>She's benefited from feminism, but she's not given much back to it, and has worked against important feminist issues.Josh Jasperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08441897278413737658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-14314041922686710272008-08-31T20:11:00.000-07:002008-08-31T20:11:00.000-07:00Marco - Which of your statements is true? Is Femin...Marco - <BR/><BR/><I><BR/>Which of your statements is true? Is Feminists for Life an anti-abortion group, or they also an anti-birth control organization? I read their web site and the Wikipedia article. As far as I can tell, only your first statement is true. Where did you get your information?</I><BR/><BR/>Their web site. There's a long history of anti-abortion groups also being anti-birth control.Josh Jasperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08441897278413737658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-62614618876736413802008-08-31T19:37:00.000-07:002008-08-31T19:37:00.000-07:00Oh, and on the issue of help/hurt, here is some mo...Oh, and on the issue of help/hurt, here is some more data;<BR/><BR/>http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll<BR/><BR/>"There have been significant changes in perception of John McCain in the two days of polling since he named Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. Since then, 49% of Republicans voice a Very Favorable opinion of McCain. That’s up six percentage points from 43% just before the announcement. Also, 64% of unaffiliated voters now give positive reviews to McCain, up ten points since naming his running mate."<BR/><BR/>It's obvious its a short term help. Long term, we'll see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-52083022714666693432008-08-31T19:31:00.000-07:002008-08-31T19:31:00.000-07:00Oh of course they will. The vast majority of vote...Oh of course they will. The vast majority of voters don't base their vote on the Vice-President. They are willing to accept things in a VP that they would _never_ accept in a presidential candidate (Agnew, Quayle, Eagleton). You can argue that voters _should_ care, but the historical record says they mostly don't. <BR/><BR/>As the Republicans continue to bash Obama on inexperience (which is a weak point because it is true point, he is pretty much the most inexperienced Presidential candidate in over 80 years) and he counterpoints with something like, "Well, if I"m so inexperienced why did you guys nominate Palin?" they will just use that as excuse to talk some more about how inexperienced he is by saying that Palin has more experience than he does.<BR/><BR/>Which is exactly what they are doing now;<BR/><BR/>http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/31/mccain-surrogates-tout-palin-as-more-experienced-than-obama/<BR/><BR/>Basically the more debate their is on experience, the more of an advantage it is for Republicans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-67948033851597268502008-08-31T18:46:00.000-07:002008-08-31T18:46:00.000-07:00The Palin choice was a surprise to me. Not sure w...The Palin choice was a surprise to me. Not sure whether it will help or hurt McCain yet, still trying to find out more about her.<BR/><BR/>One thing I do know is that the Repubs won't be able to go after Obama for being inexperienced anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-69837679150697589462008-08-31T18:43:00.000-07:002008-08-31T18:43:00.000-07:00Shady Grady: I followed your link. The FFL positio...Shady Grady: I followed your link. The FFL position statement on thge link takes no position on contraception at all. It merely states that some members do support some forms of birth controls and others are against birth control. This seems like a somewhat more liberal attitude towards birth control than the Catholic church's position. If being a member of FFL makes Palin less qualified for VP then I guess we should go back to eliminating Catholics from the presidency and vice presidency.Marty Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06465745755940914756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-79402691644237105862008-08-31T16:15:00.000-07:002008-08-31T16:15:00.000-07:00The Feminists for Life group takes no official pos...The Feminists for Life group takes no official position on "non-abortifacient" contraception.<BR/>So I think this means they would be against RU-486 and take no position on other oral contraceptives. <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.feministsforlife.org/FAQ/index.htm#contraception" REL="nofollow">FFL_Contraception_Position</A>Shady_Gradyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00996625985002373392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-76436636837921115972008-08-31T15:10:00.000-07:002008-08-31T15:10:00.000-07:00Anonomouse: I tried it. As expected pro abortion r...Anonomouse: I tried it. As expected pro abortion rights sites blasted the organization, but even they didn't cite any position statements that feminists for life wants to ban birth control. They had to settle for the organization refused to answer questions on the subject, which I'm sure makes them guilty as charged to you. Sort of a guilty until proved innocent approach.Marty Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06465745755940914756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-14685818372601248672008-08-31T12:13:00.000-07:002008-08-31T12:13:00.000-07:00Google is your friend.Search: feminists for life b...Google is your friend.<BR/>Search: feminists for life birth control<BR/><BR/>Its really not that hard.<BR/><BR/>You should try it sometime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-25929363742084767882008-08-31T12:00:00.000-07:002008-08-31T12:00:00.000-07:00There was a lot of stuff online earlier this year ...There was a lot of stuff online earlier this year about Obama being Muslim. That wasn't accurate, what makes you think anything you read about Palin online, particularly on a site which favors a particular viewpoint is any more creditable. Russ Berrie, the creator of Russ Bears and a multimillionaire many times over is my wife's cousin. She once read his biography on Wikopedia and it was a pack of lies. You need to do some real research before making statements about someone.Marty Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06465745755940914756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-91835495763178880032008-08-31T09:52:00.000-07:002008-08-31T09:52:00.000-07:00"ALL they do is work to ban abortion.""They're als..."ALL they do is work to ban abortion."<BR/><BR/>"They're also anti-birth control." <BR/><BR/>Which of your statements is true? Is Feminists for Life an anti-abortion group, or they also an anti-birth control organization? I read their web site and the Wikipedia article. As far as I can tell, only your first statement is true. Where did you get your information? <BR/><BR/>"If you want to reduce the number of abortions, outside of making them illegal, which will jsut make them unsafe, granting access to birth control is about the best way to do so. Access to reliable birth control provably reduces abortion rates. So if a woman styling herself a feminist decided that cutting off access to birth controll was a good way to reduce abortion, she'd have to be some sort of anti feminist idiot trying to disguise herself as a feminist."<BR/><BR/>Where is your evidence that Governor Palin is anti-birth control? What has she done as governor to make birth control illegal in Alaska? When has she stated that she wants to ban birth control? <BR/><BR/>MarcoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-79271025416070931622008-08-31T08:23:00.000-07:002008-08-31T08:23:00.000-07:00To take the political argument farther, I'd have t...To take the political argument farther, I'd have to say that Barack executed the first political speech I've ever wanted to watch twice.<BR/><BR/>McCain knows he needs something because Barack is the most articulate and charismatic politician I've come across.<BR/><BR/>He strove to bring the country together and not keep it apart.Christian H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16847810167041864292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-78543995172832179962008-08-31T07:44:00.000-07:002008-08-31T07:44:00.000-07:00The on thing Palin will not do is draw any signifi...The on thing Palin will not do is draw any significant number of Clinton voters. She's simply not a feminist in any meaningful sense of the word. <BR/><BR/> She's a member of a group calling themselves feminists for life, who's only connection to feminism is in the name of the group. They're an anti abortion group with no other feminist activities. ALL they do is work to ban abortion. <BR/><BR/>They're also anti-birth control. Seeking a rollback on the right to access to birth control is so anti-feminist that it's leaping into Rush Limbaugh territory. <BR/><BR/>Think about it for a moment. If you want to reduce the number of abortions, outside of making them illegal, which will jsut make them unsafe, granting access to birth control is about the best way to do so. Access to reliable birth control provably reduces abortion rates. So if a woman styling herself a feminist decided that cutting off access to birth controll was a good way to reduce abortion, she'd have to be some sort of anti feminist idiot trying to disguise herself as a feminist.<BR/><BR/>Sarah Palin is exactly that sort of idiot.Josh Jasperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08441897278413737658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339191.post-10214315847069769422008-08-31T06:07:00.000-07:002008-08-31T06:07:00.000-07:00I think this horrendous choicewill energize more y...I think this horrendous choice<BR/>will energize more young people<BR/>for Obama than it will for McCain<BR/><BR/>I don't think Obama is worried<BR/><BR/>McCain couldn't take his eyes <BR/>off her ass<BR/>during his intro of her<BR/><BR/>TOO FUNNY!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com